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January 02, 2010, 10:21:01 am
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I have a very strange question. If virustotal checks a malware sample, are those sent to AV vendors?
Why am I asking this? Because it is said, that yes, the samples are sent to AV vendors. But the practice does not follow this assumption.

Here are two scans results of the same malware:

http://www.virustotal.com/analisis/8997c271747fbb83d870ffe9f6ad034d
http://www.virustotal.com/analisis/a5b12389a3f23687c787eeb0a2ab12bf

The first was scanned on 2008.11.11 with detection rate of 6/36, the second scan was performed on 2009.03.18 with detection rate 9/39. One of the 3 new AV vendors detecting it were new in virustotal at all, and two of them detect it because they have already found what the malware is about. Although this is only one case, I bet everybody can find such examples in a very short time.

But the question remains, are those samples sent to AV vendors? If yes, why they didn't react in 4 months, if they are not sent, why???

January 02, 2010, 12:39:00 pm
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i don't think they sent samples to av-vendors, we are working with avira, and avira in my knowledege has no active channel from/to virustotal.

avira will pick up every incident from clean mx (our page  see also thread: http://www.malwaredomainlist.com/forums/index.php?topic=3190.0)

also threadexpert and anubis/wekawet do not exchange data with av-vendors ....

perhaps someone else may shade some light on this...

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January 24, 2010, 12:10:10 am
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O I believe Avira gets a steady feed of files from vt ;)

November 19, 2010, 03:33:00 am
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I don't want to comment about whether or not virustotal sends samples to av vendors, bu I will say this: some av vendors receive hundreds of thousands of samples per day. Adding detection for every one is impossible and also pointless these days. The only things worth detecting are threats that actually impact real people, and not every "test" file packed or obfuscated that somehow makes it to the vendors... same argument applies to all the so-called "tester" agencies who still test against DOS viruses and give vendors a hard time when detection for these long extinct issues are removed.

Cost vs. Benefit. :)

tjs
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